On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 09:37 +0800, Chen Xiao Fan wrote: > Look at PICkit 1 and you can use a boost converter > to do that. You can port Microchip's implementation > to the 16F870. A boost converter is much better than > a charge pump and will not really cost more (you > need an inductor but less diode and capacitors). Interesting. In this situation I think charge pumps are "better" as they don't need the feed back and control to keep them from over-volting the Vpp pin. And the circuit in AN258 seems to be a recipe for the smoke to escape from the transistor in the boot circuit if the PWM output stops in the high state (Note I don't write bug free code so anything is possible). Peter. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist