> > I can see what the OP is saying, with the diode in place, MCLR > > is essentialy free to float when the capacitor voltage is low > > and the diode is reverse biased. > > There should really be a pull down on MCLR. > > Yes ! That's exactly what I meant ! Ah! I see (said the blind man ;-)). AFAICT, the problems associated with the Schottky/cap pair in that circuit make it undesirable. The other ugly fact is that if one were to ground that MCLR pin, one would be left with a capacitor charged to 5V grounded through that Schottky- maybe not such a good thing. I'm going to stick with the pullup only. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist