Sorry but I have an ICD2 so I will not buy a clone ICD2. I did try the simplest clone out there and had some mixed results. I end up getting an original ICD2. I do not quite like ICD2 as a programmer and that is the reason I am looking for more choice. Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Johansson [mailto:peter@elemental.org] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:39 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] dsPIC programmer choice other than ICD2 SparkFun just added a new low-cost (US$52.95), micro-sized (housed in a DB9-DB25 adapter shell) ICD2 clone. It is serial input only, and has the preferred 6-pin in-line header as output (just like the current Olimex clone.) It claims full ICD2 compatibility, so one would assume it does dsPIC as well as PIC. The guys that run SparkFun have been very responsive to my questions in the past, so I'm certain they can confirm/deny dsPIC compatibility for you. If you wind up purchasing the unit, please post a report back to the list. I'm getting some friends interested in PIC programming, and this unit appears to be the ICD2 clone of choice... -p. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist