Hey Russell, Never heard of these guys until a mfgr's rep recently told me about them. Perhaps one of their products might fit your needs... www.semtech.com . Cheers, -Neil. On Tuesday 31 May 2005 05:37 am, Russell McMahon scribbled: > I'm probably about to offer the manufacturer both TL499 and CD40106 > based design and let them choose the one which works out cheapest > overall. I'll publish versions of them both with a pointer here as > they may be useful to others. The CD40106 (hex Schmitt inverter) has a > nasty parts count but the IC is the dearest single part at about > $US0.15 or less. The TL499 design uses far less parts but the IC is > several times dearer. Both give good quiescent current and OK overall > performance. The CD40106 is probably more efficient due to the full > CMOS oscillator. Potentially VERY low quiescent with great care. I > have also tried various discrete and IC approaches but all are either > too high quiescent or too dear or too flaky under questionable startup > conditions or samples not available to me here right now. > > > The problem with the low cost SMPS controllers is the > > quiescent current. This was true 5 years ago and is less > > true now. MC34063 is a quite an old product anyway. > > Very old. Excellent for higher power levels where leading edge > effciency is not an issue. Driver stage is not at all nice inside with > its darlington driver BUT using it to drive a FET removes the > saturation issue and transforms it. Driving a FET was not something > the makers ever envisaged "way back then". > > > The problem with those nice SMPS controllers from > > Intersil/Maxim/AD/Linear/TI is the relative high cost. > > Typically 5 times as much as a MC34063 :-(. > > > OnSemi/Fairchild/National/IR may produce some cheaper > > product. There are some new players from Asia whose > > product are less know to the public though. > > These I'd be interested in but I need samples here NOW and they also > need to be available in Taiwan soonish. > Next time round maybe. > > > RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist