> When I was about 14 or 15 I was etching a board in the > kitchen (snip) Ah, bold stories! When I was 15 my favourite receipt was to make teargas from bromium and acetone. Making bromium with my primitive destillation tools was a challenge, but I could do that without choking by working mainly with my head outside the window. But then the bromium and acetone (both liquids) had to be combined in precise amounts. I did this with a pipette, sucking up each liquid up to the desired level. Bromium is not as bad as chlorine, but in retrospect I still shudder with the idea that it could have ended up in my mouth. Many years before that (maybe 9y old) I wanted to etch PCBs. I had figured out that I needed FeCl3. I could get my hands on Fe (iron wool), HCl (that was still sold in supermarkets at that time), and HClO (common toilet cleaner). So I created FeCl2 from iron wool and HCl, Cl2 from HCl and HClO, and let that bubble through the FeCl2 solution. I guess some of it indeed made FeCl3, but most of it ended up in my room. When my parents noticed that my hair was falling off they stopped my in-house experiments, and (knowing I could not be stopped for long) they bought me a small caravan in the garden, in which I could continue my experiments without poisoning anybody but myself. So I continued with for instance the teargas. Years after I had switched from chemistry to electronics my sister had a girlfriend staying with her. They slept in the abandoned caravan. They were a bit annoyed when after a few days holes appeared in the fabric of some of their clothes. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist