>> And I do support the policy that politics and religion should not >> be on >> the list, not even as OT or WOT. > Indeed, not even the politics and religion of science and > engineering! That I disagree with. As you'd expect. My point is, if we don't understand that what we call science is often times in fact unsupportable opinion, and in all other cases circumstantially supportable opinion, then we risk erring severely. By preventing discussion on such things we become culpable for the atrocities committed in the name of science by those who have little or no understanding of the tool they wield, or that they are holding it by the blade (or that, in some cases, it has a double ended blade and no handles)(like C). RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist