> I just use a large plastic photographic tray & conc FeCl3. Rock it gently > back & forth by hand - takes ~40 minutes @ room temp. Wear rubber > gloves! Debbie. Debbie, I'm not a big fan of long cold etch times, mostly because the etchant has time to get under etch-resist and make breaks or fuzzy tracks The simplest fix is a hot water jacket. Etch time will be 6-7 minutes http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0makepcb.html Also, float the board upside-down and you won't need to rock it either (you'd not considered a little motor to do the rocking ?). Better if you do this with GRP stock as you can see the tracks form. Not so easy to see through phenolic unless you have illumination from below. Every now and then decant cold etchant and run it through a filter. Paper is OK, eg coffee filter, kitchen towel -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist