On May 29, 2005, at 9:08 AM, jrem wrote: > I am looking for Eagle Light clues for the best way to layout a single > sided board with the minimum number of top side routings and vias. The Eagle autorouter is not very good at single sided boards. It's big "trick" for routing seems to involve moving tracks to another layer, and when it can't do that... Still, attempting a single sided route can be a good way of evaluating your placement, orientation, and packaging choices. There is a 1layer.ctl file at http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/download.pl?page=/home/cadsoft/ html_public/download.htm.en&dir=pub/userfiles/misc that sets up the autorouter somewhat appropriately. Density is the enemy of one-sided routing (and vis versa.) If you're doing homemade boards, you may find it worthwhile to make modified libraries with extra space between pads (transistors with .15 inch lead spacing instead of .1, for instance.) Resistors are your friends; you can fit several traces underneath a typical 1/4W resistor, and it's a good trick for getting signals to where you want them (although I'm not sure I can explain exactly how that works; you just have to get a feel for it...) Leave a lot of room between your components for your initial attempts at routing; you can always move them closer together after you have a good idea where there is room for them. Be willing to swap pins around, even pins that would not traditionally be considered swappable (like the IO pins on a microcontroller.) It's pretty easy to change which pin does what in software, and it can be worth it if it makes your board layout easier. You will need to learn just which pins can and can't be switched: on a 12f675, GP0,1,2,4,5 are swappable if you're doing digital IO, but not if you're using some of their alternate functions (comparator, timer, etc), and GP3 is input only, for instance. Some chips just seem better designed for single sided PCB layouts. 74x540 vs 74x240 is obvious, but also I find the "end" power pins of a 12f PIC more convenient than the corner pins of an ATtiny11, for instance. Some of the modern chips with multiple GND and Power pins are pretty impossible. People have recommended putting the power traces in first, which makes a fair amount of sense. However, typical power routing can be very disruptive to the layout of other signals, and you may want to think of this as laying out the power BUSSES first, and worrying about the actual chip connections to the power later; you may get your most "bang for the buck" using jumpers on the power net (and jumpers are nice and heavy compared to the tiny traces you can run signals through.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist