just one remark from my own experience: make sure that your programmer support whatever PIC you use. If you are using an old type programmer make sure it support the new chip. In my case I have to spend an extra 35 bocks --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist