Since you're in the UK, you should have mentioned www.picaxe.co.uk! A Ba= sic Stamp on a single chip, several varieties (8-40 pin, if I recall). Put it in a white breadboard, download a program via RS-232, have a play. If you get bored of the Basic, wipe it and you're left with a real PIC. Peter Anderson - www.phanderson.com sells them in the States. Quick, he'= s going on holidays in a few weeks! Tony > > A BS2 costs about 50 bucks, right? > > Depends where you buy them - from Maplin, here in > Rip-Off-Britain, they are UK=A345 (say US$82 at current > exchange rates)... > > > I'm curious to ask people in the know where the cost is. > > The *cost* was in the development of the language and the > interpreter to run it and possibly in user support > (if there is any) plus a little for the hardware. The *value* is > in not having to learn PIC assembler and not > needing a programmer - the program is sent straight to the BS > from the PC serial port. > > Whether the price is good value for money is a debate that could > run and run! :-) > > Cheers, > > > Howard Winter > St.Albans, England > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist