> You do have a problem. No matter what you buy, you need to > consider it "throw-away". Which is an economic attitude. The OP stated 'below $100-$150'. Entry level intelligent programmers can be had for < $60. So the OP can buy one now, and save the remainder to buy a next one should the need arise. > The USB programmers all require proprietary software, and at > some point the vendor will loose interest in the product > Small suppliers like Olin and Wouter provide nice, > inexpensive programmers > that are supported pretty well. These are small guys, > though, and although > they provide quite good support, you are dependent on them > taking interest > in a particular part, and they are probably at fairly high > risk of going out > of business tomorrow. But both provide the sources too, so there is nothing that prevents you (or someone else) to extend the software. In fact there is a range of third-party PC software for my Wisp628, and someone took Olin's firmware and ported it to the Wisp628 hardware! Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist