I don't mean to pick you out of the crowed here, GC, because there have been
a number of posts that make me uncomfortable (along with some that I have no
problem with at all) but this is getting into the very religious and needs
to be stopped.

There is a fine line between philosophy and religion and this thread
started, and has stayed mostly on the discussion of philosophy (although one
of the philosophies being discussed has been religion) so I want to make
sure it stays on that side.

Please, no statements OR questions of the unknowable. If it is a discussion
of what is or isn't knowable, ok, unless that turns out to be unknowable in
some peoples minds. But speculation as to the mind or existence of God is
off limits.

Thank you.

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> The other thing I always wonder is that if there is a God, 
> who created Him?  If God denies there is a higher being, does 
> that mean He lacks faith?  If faith isn't good enough for 
> God, why should we bother with it?


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