I agree that there is a hard division line, but > Evolution falls outside Popper's boundaries and can not be handled by > Science as he knows it. I am not so sure. Popper is all about falsification. If a theory does predictions which can be matched against the reality around us, it is fasifyable and hence science. The trouble is that this division line runs right through some things: most humanities (sociology, pedagogy, political studies (!), religion studies (!)) have some parts that are definitely science and some parts that are definitely not. I think this division line also runs right through all the stuff people classify under 'evolution theory'. > Popper followers can NEVER say "we > know", only that their model is getting better over time and they > don't THINK that it's going to break any time soon. Totally true. Popperian scientist can say "this theory is consistent with the current evidence (or that least more consistent than any other available theory)". Religious people can say "this theory (or belief, or ...) is consistent with my innermost conviction." Note that one is outer-world driven, the other is inner-world driven. IMHO neither group can say more, and if they would refrain from claiming more they would never have to disagree on scientific/religious matters because the intersection of the two is empty. Of course that leaves a lot of very important points to disagree on, like topposting versus bottomposting, the right way to store the bytes of an integer, PIC versus AVR, assembler versus HLL, etc. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist