Hi, I have a home-brew programmer that uses a 16F627 to program either 16F877s or 16F872s (or any similar devices) There is a picture here http://www.btinternet.com/~Peter.Onion/PIC/DevSys1.jpg I now want to improve it to handle 18F devices, (initialy just 18F452s). I'll probably write my own boot load in the end, but to start with I need to be able to use High Voltage programming. Does anyone have any 16F series code to program 18F devices that I can use as a starting point please ? I've read the programming specification, and although I understand it, it is much more complex than the scheme used on the 16F series. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist