Peter wrote: > I love that kind of noise. vss connected to gnd is a failure to rename > pins and/or nets suitably imho. Not really. It only means that you have a supply and a power pin on the same net that have different names. This can happen easily, and should be none of Eagle's business. For example, it's quite reasonble to call a ground symbol GND, and the negative supply pin of a PIC Vss. However if you connect the two in Eagle, you get that stupid warning the Vss is connected GND. You get the same problem if you connect a net called +5V to the PIC pin called Vdd. Each one is a reasonable name on its own. Changing the net name to Vdd would be losing information and name it according to only one of its uses. Changing the PIC pin name to +5V would be outright wrong since PICs can run at various voltages. The right answer is for Eagle to be less uppity. This kind of nonsense makes the ERC less useful than it could be. As a result, I usually run it just once before starting layout. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist