> Putting the pads for FT232 isn't that unreasonable, but this > is where other realities set in. IMHO with the arrival of the 18F USB PICs and the all-available USB converters the FT232 has lost most of its charm for this kind of board. But an USB connector and what else is needed for the USB PICs would sure make sense (and add the option to power the board from USB!). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist