Thanks for all the suggestions. I do not really need an IDE actually. I used plain vi most of the time for text editing before this Ubuntu trial. Now I use simple gedit most often :(. I like Ultraedit on Windows so maybe I would like to find some similar editor in Linux. I will learn more about vim/gvim. I would like to learn more about make. It is good for me to understand more in order to understand other people's program. I guess I will forget about Mplab/MCC18 first and start from the basic like gputil and gpsim. Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist