I do not like Emacs at all. From the very beginning I never installed EMACS and TETEX. Vi is acceptable. :( I do know I need to learn Make in order to work in Linux. For Linux newbie like me, GUIs like GNOME/KDE are easier to use. As for Wine/DOSEMU, how to run MPLAB/MCC18 working under Wine? Of course I will try gputils and gpsim first. Now at least I have Pickit 1 working in Linux. :) Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: William "Chops" Westfield [mailto:westfw@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:49 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] MCU and electronics development on Linux Aren't there some relatively powerful assemblers that run under linux? I seem to recall that I had no troubles compiling AVR and PIC assemblers for my Mac... And there's emacs, of course :-) (The "design environment" philosophy under linux is different than for windows. IDEs are likely to be less popular, because people already have their favorite editors, and command-line tools are more popular for compile/etc.) For that matter, some of the DOS microcontroller tools should work fine under DOSEMU.... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist