> >Then make a web page with your results! And hope nothing changes on the next date code, die shrink, or different fab facility, or that the oscillator duty cycle isn't a bit more asymmetrical than the last bunch, due to crystal changes, cap value, pcb layout, or the processor itself.. I have heard of companies getting selected parts, and "waivers" form the chip vendors to exceed specs like this. Rare, but it happens. When you get one, you are assured that you can safely do exactly what they issued the waiver on. I have one on Sanyo NIMH batteries, to charge 10C hotter than the spec indicates, in one application. They needed to know a lot about the system before approving it though. I've also seen people push a part outside it's design limits without factory guidance, with varying levels of success. Far more on the negative side though. We all know that there's a little bit of extra margin in the clock speeds, on any device. But, the manufacturer is guaranteeing that the device will meet all it's specs, all the time, if you operate within the limits. Once you cross the line, you're on your own, and the failures may or may not be obvious. It comes down to risk management, what's your downside risk, and what's the benefit if it works? I would look hard for other solutions first. Depending on the task, an AVR or other processor might do better than a pic, even through their clock speeds are not all that impressive at first glance. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist