Last week there was some discussion about using the PICSTART with the latest version of MPLAB. I haven't used it for sometime...maybe a year ago when I did some 10F and 12F parts and that was with the older version. So, might have to go back and do some more of those devices. Is the PICstart the best thing or is there something else out there just as good but less expensive? __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist