Go to www.max-ic.com (IIRC) and get the official data sheet for the MAX232. You will find that any flavor of the '232 needs external electrolytic caps. However, there are other ICs in this family that do not need any external caps. HTH Vic ________________________________________________________ Victor Fraenckel - The Windman victorf ATSIGN windreader DOTcom KC2GUI -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist