Jinx wrote: > No, I was alluding to what you said here - > > "On pretty much anything I've designed, the wall wart will be as > simple as possible, and the smarts will be in the product" I agree with that philosophy in general. Somewhere you're going to have a full wave bridge, some caps, and some form of regulator. You're going to pay for these one way or the other. And even though wall warts are mass produced, it's surprising how much more those with regulated outputs cost over just bare transformers. It's usually more than the power supply in the product. Of course none of this should be a rule. There are always unique tradeoffs for every product. A good case for a wall wart with a switcher is when you need enough power so that a transformer directly from the AC line would be too large, or universal input power is important. I think I'd still want to put a diode in there unless it's a high volume design. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist