Thanks to the kind and patient help of people in this list, plus RTFM-ing and sacrifices to the Google Gods, I now have the answer for you. So be ye not afraid. A diode blocks AC and allows DC to pass. By using the correct combination of diodes you can convert an AC current into a DC current. (Pages 45-46 of The Art of Electronics, 2nd Ed., Page 47 of Forrest Mimms' Getting Started in Electronics.) This diode circuit is called a full-wave rectifier. The output of this looks like a bunch of speed bumps next to each other. Forrest calls this a "pulsating voltage" (page 36) while Horowitz & Hill call it a "ripple" (Page 46). How to fix this? This gets confusing. Forrest Mimms shows on page 36 that a capacitor connected to + and - will smooth out (filter) the output voltage. But on page 45 of The Art, Figure 1.72, they show a resistor on the + side with the capacitor crossing + and -. However on page 37, Mimms calls this particular RC circuit an Integrator which would turn a square wave into a sawtooth wave. Hope this helps! (-: -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of kenasw@btinternet.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 15:56 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] Will phone charger work as a 5v DC power supply? Linsey, If you want to know what ripple is, why don't you open an electronics general purpose text book, they normally have whole chapters on power supplies? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist