I have been using the '628 for some time now and have had no problems with it. I use the XWisp2w package to drive it. Yesterday I was working on a project and had been downloading updates to the application board (PIC16F876A) throughout the morning with absolutely NO problems. Then, after perhaps 6 downloads, XWisp2w could not find the '628 and errored out with 'Failed to Activate WBus device' and ' XWisp2 failed after 1.12 seconds, rc23'. I have been unable to use the programmer since. I run XWisp2x with the following .bat xwisp2w com1 baud 9600 go %1 the programmer has not worked since. I concede that the problem might not be the programmmer. What else? I have determined that the COM1 connection to the programmer is functional. I have a PIC app that sends data to a terminal program when commanded to do so by sending a '?' character from the terminal program. This functions perfectly. The programmer has not worked since. I concede that the problem might not be the programmmer. What else should I be looking at? I am out of ideas as to why the '628 should stop functioning so abruptly. Any enlightenment will be appreciated. TIA Vic Fraenckel ________________________________________________________ Victor Fraenckel - The Windman victorf ATSIGN windreader DOTcom KC2GUI -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist