> When does ripple cause problems? Will a rippled (rippling?) input > cause a problem with PICS? More specifically, let's say I'm using > a PIC to blink LED's or control a small stepper motor. Would this > be a problem? Well, you wouldn't want to use a rippling supply as Vref, and you'd need to be sure that ripple doesn't exceed Vdd max. If you're unsure about the charger (if it were me I'd put it on the scope with various loads to see what the o/p really looks like), buffer it with a reservoir cap, perhaps with a series resistor and/or diode. Or even a zener to clip anything over 5V1 LEDs shouldn't present too much of a problem but a stepper will probably put noise on Vdd, which can upset logic/reset pins. That's where the R-C-ZD above can help to isolate the PIC's Vdd from the raw charger V the stepper is using BTW, I had a PIC board come back to me for repairs the other day. It normally runs on an automotive 12V battery but had been hooked up to a car battery charger (basically a transformer and diode). The average DC o/p was in spec but regulator and PIC were toasted, so don't under-estimate ripple -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist