For starters, the 44 pin is probably a TQFP, rather than a DIP. Look for the /P on the end The I/P at 4 MHz is a bit confusing, I thought the I only came in 20 MHz. But the 04/P clearly is a 4 MHz part ... they are not all 20 MHz. I is a little better temperature spec than the plain part, but not as good as E. I stands for Industrial and E for automotive(!) For hobbyist use it doesn't matter, but it gets hot under the hood of a car. The A part is a little cheaper than the plain, and it has some additional feature, although I don't recall what ... another comparator maybe? The A part needs newer software to program it than the plain part, I don't know whether that is an issue with the Picstart+, but it is with a lot of programmers. --McD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: [PIC] 16F877 Confusion > Picers - I need to buy a few 16F877's/F877A's but I'm somewhat confused by the > options. A company like, eg Futurlec offers the following :- > > http://www.futurlec.com/ > > PIC16F877-04/P PIC16F877 Flash 40-pin 4MHz 8kB Micro > PIC16F877-20/P PIC16F877 Flash 40-pin 20MHz 8kB Micro. With A/D PIC16F877A-I/L > > PIC16F877A Flash 44-pin 4MHz 8kB Microcontroller (??) > PIC16F877A-I/P PIC16F877A Flash 40-pin 4MHz 8kB Microcontroller > > For starters, 44 pin is no good 'coz I use a 40 pin Picstart+ > > What's this 4Mhz vs 20MHz? There's no mention of different speed limits in my > PIC16F87X Microchip data sheet - they're all DC to 20MHz, aren't they? > > I'm only in the xptal stage - doing LCDs, starting out on I2C, ADC & stuff > like that. Would anyone be willing to offer advice on what I should go for? > Especially any gotchas v/v the F877A? > > Thankz if can help - Debbie :) > > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. > http://au.movies.yahoo.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist