I am sure that i am not the only person who has passed, while driving, concrete pumping trucks proudly declaring their name as " Putzmeister". I suppose it could be worse if they were labeled "MeisterPutz". A reallly long time ago, I had a client named " Adolf Hilter". A very not cheerful person, who later married and took his wifes last name. Martin -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist