Hi Mark, Maybe you can get a PIC16C745 programmed with Ver 2.02 firmware from Microchip guys. I got mine from the local Microchip. By the way, my PICkit 1 is from them as well but was with a ver 0.9 firmware. :) There is no compatible flash part to the 16C745 right now. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rages [mailto:markrages@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:21 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Using pickit 1 to program other picmicros I only have PicKit 1 version 1.0 to test with. (Does anyone else find it confusing that the "Pickit 1" can come with "Version 2.x" firmware?) I would like to test with newer firmware. Does anyone know if there is a flash part comparable with the 16C745? I could bootstrap the newer firmware. Otherwise, I will continue testing with 1.0 firmware. Actually, I would like to have firmware with the "erase row" command implemented, so incremental programming could be used to speed the program->run->debug cycle. I wrote the Microchip guy credited in the source and asked about this, but I guess "not supported" means "not supported". If I had a compatible flash part to the 16C745, I would try to add the command myself. I don't have an EPROM eraser and I don't really want to deal with EPROM. Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist