--- Olin Lathrop wrote:> Are you programming a DIP package directly in the Picstart+ (you are using > the "+", right It's a DUD CHIP! :( i changed it over for another. works fine. (Yep - i'm using picstart+, the pic plugged directly into socket.) Don't know what's gone wrong as the chip hasn't suffered any accidents/heating/rev. polarity etc. thankz everybody - probly would have messed about with it all week before swapping over. Debbie Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist