>> Yeah but. But. I mean. Of course it's that, but I mean, it has >> to be more deep than that because that was too obvious, no? > You were expecting something from Russel's post let alone Star Wars > to be deep? ;-) 1. What is the sound of one dog barking? 2. Not everyone is as incisive as Lindy :-). It's truly amazing how many people look at you completely blankly and have to have it spelt out word by word. rather makes it unworthwhile. If it ever was. 3. People have queried how 5/5/5 (0r 5/5/05 (inconsistently)) relates to an unsuccessful timer as they consider it works well. That was an opinion from a group of friends of mine who consider the 555 an abomination, an opinion I only partially share. The original ones had (and have) a very very nasty supply spike at switching time due to totem pole shoot through. They are also not nicely planned in the charge and discharge area. CMOS implementations fix the supply spike by not having any hair on their chest for driving loads. My friends maintain that you can do a better job as easily using better technology. I consider that despite its faults the 555 is a useful building block as long as you are aware of its shortcomings. applies to many ICs. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist