At 11:40 AM 5/6/2005, Dave Turner wrote: >I recall hearing somewhere that you can actually use the PIC usart >levels with the PC without a converter. I haven't actually tryed >this, but it might be worth a go. > >http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/serialio/serial-5-hardware.htm I've seen it done, but it's not a good idea. What's the ESD protection on a pic pin? What happens when you connect to a device that drives +/- 12 or 24V, and has a bit of current available? What happens when you get a bit of a ring, overshoot or undershoot? What happens on plugging in, if ground isn't the first pin that makes contact? All legal under 232. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist