At 10.47 2005.05.06 -0400, you wrote: >> At 10.35 2005.05.06 +0200, you wrote: >> >ThePicMan [thepicman@infinito.it] wrote : > >[I was the one that said the remark below, and I take responsibility >for it. I am also moving this to OT where it belongs] > >> >> >I agree fully with this. I tend to think of people with obviously >> >> >made up names as mere kids pretending to be "in" >> >> >> >> You are insulting me and others with no reason. > >No, I am not insulting you. I was saying what I believe to be true. > >And to further it, I believe that those who are not willing to stand up >and take credit for their statements believe said statements have >little worth. > >[Somebody else responding.] > >> >Having a clear name in the mail header have nothing with >> >anti-SPAM to do. Is there any other resonable reason to >> >not disclosing the name on this kind of forum ? >> >> Either you see a reason for it or not (it's not up to you, >> it's up to the person that signs itself), it is perfectly >> reasonable and "within the rules" of the mailinglist to not >> sign with one's real name. > >Yes, it is within the rules. I can think of many good reasons for >using an alias. However, all the ones I can think of are either >childish, petty, lame, or dishonest. Which doesn't exclude that there may be other, this time better, reasons. Or does it? >I know that I'm an odd person. The only thing I do anonymously is >pure charity. And publicizing your modesty very well. >> There are people using false, but perfectly sounding names. >> Is it reasonable for you? > >Well, at least I don't realize it. Well.. you can call me John Smith, then. >> Calling "kid" someone that makes a choice that doesn't >> break any mailinglist rule and whose reasons you simply >> don't understand is gratuitously insulting him/her, IMHO. > >I never called *anybody* a kid. I just said that I thought this >behavior was the actions of a kid. Is there ANY difference, in the substance?? >Perhaps you should examine why *you* feel insulted by my remarks? Because they're very pointless remarks, not because you "touchet" me. Just to stop your illusions. >> seen that, instead I've seen the worst kind of people >> making libellous affirmations on someone's real name, >> because he was a dangerous competitor, and making night >> calls to him to scare his family. This is just one example > >There are legal remedies for this. In fact. If you have time to dedicate to it. >> of the abuse that some people can make of someone else's >> real name. And this is one of many possible good reasons >> to choose not to use the own real name. > >Oh? And you think that a large portion of this list couldn't find >your real name and more quickly and easily? Note: I mean through >strictly legal and easily available searches. I don't care.. the only thing I care about is to be honest regardless if I appear anonymous or not. And as long as to be anonymous (which is still better IMHO than use a real-sounding false name) won't break any mailinglist rule, I'll think it's entirely reasonable to do so. I have to respond to my conscience (which doesn't mean I'm religious, by the way), not to anyone on this list wanting to enforce pointless rules. And I'll feel insulted if somebody says that it's "kid" acting, either if this someone signs with his real name or is anon, it doesn't make any difference. Because to me what matters is the substance of things, not your telephone number. That one's useful only for (truly kiddish this time) revenges, and the like. As I said in another post, if someone does you real damage, there are legal ways to breach any false identity. So it's all pointless talking to moan at somebody just because he doesn't sign with a real (or seemingly real) name. A name is a name, let anyone chose his own name or handle. He won't stop nor limit your freedom by doing so. So what's the point? >> Either I have personally good reasons or not to use a >> pseudonym, I'm sure it is correct to use one, and I do! > >Your reasons are your own. Frankly, from your paragraph above I >think that they are because of fear and paranoia. And this, to >me, is one of the worse reasons to use a pseudonym. It takes you too little to make assumptions on somebody's personality. And this is a good reason not to put in the mouth of people like you a real identity, I may say. Anyway, this thread is boring. Better close it now IMHO. >-- >D. Jay Newman ! Polititions and civilations come and >jay@sprucegrove.com ! go but the engineers and machinists >http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! make progress >-- >http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >View/change your membership options at >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist