Thanks very interesting links. Maybe should try this after all...... /Ake ThePicMan wrote: >At 11.53 2005.05.06 +0200, you wrote: > =20 > >>>Why don't you DIY? >>> =20 >>> >>I have thought about it. But can one get good results? >> =20 >> > >I'd say definitely yes. Check these links: > >http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200006/oven_art.htm >http://www.stencilsunlimited.com/stencil_article_page1.htm >http://www.beloev.net/gbvio.html >http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/ReflowToaster/reflow-toaster.htm >http://www.esmonde-white.com/toasteroven.html >http://articulationllc.home.comcast.net/sm0402.htm > >there's even a group/mailinglist somewhere.. but I don't recall >where / what is its name, sorry. > > > =20 > >>Also this is something for my business and while doing a lot of DIY for= private stuff in my house etc buying something almost always end up at a= lower cost when you have to count business hours. >> =20 >> > >True, but if you check the main page of the 2nd link I gave >you, you'll see that other than telling you how to make a DIY >toaster oven they will gladly sell you one for ~$4500. While >for direct experience I do agree with your affirmation above, >I think that in this case the "DIY" is well worth. > > > =20 > >>Will a standard domestic three phase oven work for this if temperature = control is added? >> =20 >> > >Sorry, haven't tested it yet. I made sure though to buy the >"hottest" oven I found, just to have some good margins. My >oven says "260C" as the hottest selectable (by hand so far) >temperature. Also, I bought a oven with a fan inside, imagining >this is a good thing. :D > > > =20 > >>You have to go to 240 degrees in about 2 1/2 minutes. and then cool aga= in rather fast (but that can maybe be achieved by opening the lid). >> =20 >> > >In fact. Or use a solenoid/motor to automatize the process. ;) > > > =20 > >>If you finish your design please share your results. Any pointers to a = suitable toaster oven? (hmmm.. getting interested here... ;-) ) >> =20 >> > >Above. ;) > > > > =20 > >>Cheers >>/Ake >> >>ps "Hej D=E5" =3D> You Swedish or some connection? ds >> =20 >> > >Lotsa kompisar there. ;) > > > > > =20 > >>ThePicMan wrote: >> >> =20 >> >>>At 10.34 2005.05.06 +0200, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>I am looking into buying a small reflow oven this summer to be able t= o do small series in house (I have kids and a wife don't I... ;-) ). But= who sells them. Searching the web only comes up with the big assembly li= ne stuff. I am looking for a small oven that can have a temperature profi= le programmed and of course have the best price possible. Any pointers/su= ggestions? >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>> >>>Why don't you DIY? >>> >>>It will "have the best price possible". You will possibily learn many = things in the process and will have a lot of fun. >>> >>>I'm making mine with a toaster oven, a PT100 sensor, opamps and of cou= rse the magical PIC. Basicly it's a ohmeter (for the PT100 sensor) that c= ontrols the heater in a feedback loop to follow the temperature profile ~= precisely and actively. >>> >>>I didn't finish it yet (did I start it?) otherwise I would share it. I= f you can wait a couple of months I'll gladly share my design. >>> >>>Hejd=E5! >>>TPM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>Regards >>>>/Ake >>>> >>>>-- --- >>>> =20 >>>> =20 >>>> >>--=20 >>--- >>Ake Hedman (YAP - Yet Another Programmer) >>eurosource, Brattbergav=E4gen 17, 820 50 LOS, Sweden >>Phone: (46) 657 413430 Cellular: (46) 73 84 84 102 >>Company home: http://www.eurosource.se =20 >>Kryddor/Te/Kaffe: http://www.brattberg.com >>Personal homepage: http://www.eurosource.se/akhe >>Automated home: http://www.vscp.org >> >> >>--=20 >>http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>View/change your membership options at >>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> =20 >> --=20 --- Ake Hedman (YAP - Yet Another Programmer) eurosource, Brattbergav=E4gen 17, 820 50 LOS, Sweden Phone: (46) 657 413430 Cellular: (46) 73 84 84 102 Company home: http://www.eurosource.se =20 Kryddor/Te/Kaffe: http://www.brattberg.com Personal homepage: http://www.eurosource.se/akhe Automated home: http://www.vscp.org --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist