On May 3, 2005 03:38 pm, Dmitriy Kiryashov wrote: > Hi All. > > What would be cheapest and still reliable hardware > solution to support ICSP in high volume manufacturing ? > ( besides low cost connectors(plastic), pcb board edge > connectors and jtag like pads with pogo pins assembled > on the stand ) Well, going for cheap-n-reliable.... ;-) ;-) ;-) 3 pieces of wood nailed together in the form of a U shaped jig. At the top edges of the U, you put a couple of metal sticks to provide correct PCB alignment (place PCB horizontally on U (4 to hold PCB correctly in X direction, 4 to hold PCB correctly in Y direction). At the bottom of the U, you drill holes to place test pins which point up at your PCB. The X/Y locations depend on the X/Y location of your bare PCB pads when placing your board on this U-shaped jig. The Test pins are spring-loaded and replaceable, because they will wear out due to hi-volume production. Solder wires from the pin sockets (holding your testpoints) to a socket which you can plug into your ICSP. On your PCB, you provide a few bare pads for your +5v, gnd, etc. To program, place board on U, press down on testpoints, press a button to program. Unfortunately, this won't test for backwards parts, wrong components, wrong voltages etc... but you did want cheap and it is rather simple to build-n-fix :-) If you want to get fancy, you choose a decent ICSP (such as Olin's) plus you add more testpoints to test other factors of your PCB. > > Olin Lathrop wrote: > > phil B wrote: > > > Why not just use a service? I know Digi Key will > > > preprogram for fairly cheap if you buy from them. I > > > looked into this about 6 months ago - the minimums > > > were pretty small and prices reasonable. > > > > I see a lot more last minute in-circuit programming than I did a > > few years ago. Especially with surface mount chips, you want > > everything assembled by a place that does mostly that. Often new > > firmware versions come out regularly, so with ICSP the latest can > > be programmed at final test and calibration time. ICSP capability > > also gives a potential path for field upgrades. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist