Where can a kid get a PIC loaded with a HEX file for whatever so he doesn't have to build a programmer to get started with robots or whatever? We used to have a few listed at http://www.piclist.com/techref/microchip/progserv.htm but they all seem to have stopped doing it. --- James Newton: PICList webmaster/Admin mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist