I had 2 ICD1s. I also have a PicMaster Emulator that is now obsolete, about $4K with all its pods. But that was a long time ago before all the new fancy 16 and 18 flash parts. They can't haul along old stuff for ever. I don't even want to develop with the old parts anymore. Yes,I wish that that stuff was still usefull, but I am going to toss it. I at least made some money while it was supported, thats more than I can say about my Parallax and Sx stuff ! It all about getting old! Where are you going to find a ISA slot or Serial port on new computer? We got to move on. Mike Crestline, CA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Rolf" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [PIC] MPLAB > Michael Hagen wrote: > ... >> You ask Why one would like MPLAB? >> I like MPLAB because it runs all their hardware from one IDE. > > NO it DOESN'T! > They obsoleted the ICD1 for no apparent reason. ICSP is ICSP. > Breakpoint is a breakpoint. > They dynamically change the firmware in the ICD2 when chosen chip family > or mode (debug/program) is changed, so there is no reason why > they couldn't do the same thing for the ICD1 if they really needed to. > > How many thousands of ICD1's were obsoleted when MPLAB 6 came out? > >> My code hardly ever runs untill I do simple debug with their simulator. > > Unfortunately their simulator does NOT emulate serial ports which > is a real PITA when developing interrupt driven serial interfaces. > (SPI/UART/I2C). > > Robert > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist