Bob, Does the serial port in "real time" beat the ICE2000 emulator? I use the ICE2000 and an HP 54645D scope/LA when I can't figure out things with the simulator or ICD2. I thought I was almost in real time? How can a serial port beat a real emulator? Seems like serial speed would be a real problem? The bond-out chip in the emulator would seem to be the right way to do things? You ask Why one would like MPLAB? I like MPLAB because it runs all their hardware from one IDE. I don't want any more than a simple editor. I use Microchips stuff because I have had too many problems with others being buggy. It supports my 2 emulators and 2 programmers, all without running any other programs or patching things. My code hardly ever runs untill I do simple debug with their simulator. If I still have problems a break out ICD2. After that I have to use the ICE2000. I don't like it because of the cost of Pods! I have only need it on a couple of projects, but saved weeks of time. I don't write in 'C', so that may be my problem. I don't see the problems you do in 'C' with MPLAB. I have started using BoostC in MPLAB and its own IDE. I have only started to learn it, keep wanting to go back to ASM. Mike Crestline,Ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Blick" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:43 AM Subject: RE: [PIC] MPLAB > On 30 Apr 2005 at 11:21, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >> "Have to" do what ? Write PIC code ? >> What do you use when you do not "have to" use MPLAB ? >> Why is it that you sometimes "have to" use MPLAB ? >> Finaly, why do you hate it ? > > I use PICC, Ultraedit, and if I have a big project, "make". The only > time I use MPLAB is when I want to simulate some code. > > I guess since I write code in C, I am freed from having to use MPLAB, > since generally my code works. When it doesn't, debugging is easy > enough through the serial port in real time. > > I don't use an ICD or emulator because all the things I do are real- > time, and I can't just break and continue. > > MPLAB has a terrible editor, and the whole program is awkward and > dysfunctional(things we expect Windows programs to do, it doesn't). > > But I am asking, what do people LIKE about MPLAB? Because I have not > found anything to LIKE. Things to TOLERATE, yes. But not if there are > better alternatives. > > Best regards, > > Bob > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist