Just browsing the Olimex web site and noticed this: PIC-TINY-ICD2 PIC MICROCONTROLLER IN-CIRCUIT DEBUGGER DESCRIPTION: Compact and Low cost development tool providing real time emulation for all PICs with build-in ICD feature. Operates through RS232, it's completely replacement of MICROCHIP's MPLAB-ICD2. More information you can find on Microchip's web site. http://www.olimex.com/dev/pic-tinyicd2.html It's only serial, but it's also only $49.95 -Denny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist