On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 02:11:36PM +0300, Dumitru Stama wrote: > > Ok, thank you for your answer. The problem is that around here a PIC > programmer that works with almost all pics is about 200 usd > (picstart+) and 200 is quite expensive. The question is still on the table: Why do you need a programmer that can program all pics? The problem is that the programming algorithms keep changing. The basic hardware is the same though. So if you get some basic hardware when you can program most PICs and will have to either wait for updates for new parts or if you are really in a hurry take the code of some programming software and a programming specification for the new part and program it. Generally programming specifications fall in the families. So if you have something that handles all of the basic families (i.e. 16F single-word, 16F multi-word, 18F) then usually adding new parts within those families isn't too difficult. But at the end of the day no programmer can tell the future. Even if you have something that handles most of todays parts, Microchip can come out with a part tomorrow that'll require an update. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist