'k. I've added a few words at=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/pcbcads.htm by stealing a bit from Phil B. and Rob Young (hope you don't mind) and finished up with the following: At least one library that you can be confident in is the PIC library ( http://www.piclist.com/images/boards/pic.scr ) =A0created by Olin Lathrop= of=20 http://www.EmbedInc.com/PIC. Mr. Lathrop is a highly paid, professional consultant, who, from time to time, shares his valuable work in the hopes that it will be a good advertisement for his business. It contains device definitions for 16C773, 16F876-?, 16F877-?, 16C622A-?, 16*F628-?, 12F629-= ?, 12F675-?, 18F452-?, 18*F1320-?, 18*F252-?, 16F630-?, 30F2010, 18*F6520-?, 30F6010-?, 16*F648A-?, 10F206-*/?, 30F4011-?, 10F204-*/?, 10F200-*/?, 10F202-*/?, 30F4012-*/?. Olin: You will, of course, let me know if that is ok? I don't use Eagle so if there are any specific instructions people should know on using a script to build a library, perhaps someone could suggest them? --- James. =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu=20 > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop > Sent: 2005 Apr 29, Fri 13:15 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE]: question for EAGLE users > Importance: Low >=20 > James Newton, Host wrote: > > Good work that is used by only one person is a waste. I.e. "a bells=20 > > not a bell till you ring it" and all that rot... >=20 > Well, yeah, that's true, but I don't see the upside for me in=20 > giving away my libraries for free. I've spent many hours=20 > making parts that either weren't available or too ugly or=20 > sloppily made for my standards. I'm very picky about=20 > neatness and readability in my schematics and take some care=20 > making my Eagle packages and symbols. >=20 > >From a global viewpoint, it does make sense for one person to make=20 > >something > then as many people leverage that as possible. But for this=20 > system to work there has to be an advantage that outweighs=20 > the costs for that one person to let others use his work. =20 > When there is little or no incremental production cost, we=20 > usually handle this with copyrights and licenses so that=20 > force the users to in some way compensate the originator. >=20 > The disadvantages of giving away my Eagle libraries are: >=20 > 1 - Even though they are just "sitting there" on the disk, it=20 > still takes effort to package them up nicely, create the web=20 > page, write the instructions, make sure the download works=20 > properly, and all the other things that everyone else will=20 > take for granted. I'm sure you understand this better than=20 > most on this list. >=20 > 2 - Dealing with the inevitable messages, some public and=20 > some private, about why this is like that when some other way=20 > is clearly better, and oh yes, I've got this circuit with a=20 > PIC in it, please tell me what's wrong, it's urgent the=20 > project has to work tomorrow, it's really important. Except=20 > when you mention consulting rates it turns out it's not=20 > really *that* important after all. >=20 > 3 - Helping potential competitors. This is probably not that=20 > likely, but it's still something to consider. In the end I'm=20 > in business to make money, not to run a charity. >=20 > The advantages I see are: >=20 > 1 - Some small amount of additional exposure for Embed Inc and myself. >=20 > Advantage 1 seems trivially small and very unlikely to ever=20 > yield a single additional dollar. Unlike source code, there=20 > is no reasonable way to put your name on a package or=20 > schematic symbol. This means most people won't even be aware=20 > where they came from, which pretty much defeats the advantage. >=20 > However, just to see how this goes, I've exported my PIC=20 > library to a script file, zipped it, and attached it to this=20 > message. It's about 12Kbytes, so I don't know if it will=20 > make it thru the server or not. >=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist