> Please forgive my ignorance, but what is ment by: > "...overriding philosophy."? > ... but HP just direct me to their authorised repair shops; > they say that they don't have the service documentation. That's consistent with the overriding philosophy. Trojan Horse approach. Get the device into the enemies camp and then gouge them for all you can. Make it hard for anyone to repair them and uneconomic to do so. Sell consumables at 1,000%++ markup and put in place mechanisms to damage or disable consumable containers (ink cartridges, toner carts etc) when they have been used once. HP are welcome to take whatever legal business action they wish to make money. But they won't ever be making any more from me that I can possibly afford while they continue this approach. And I recommend that other people don't buy their fine products either (unless their business model is suited by HPs approach). I don't need people to explain why they do it this way - I understand and I don't care. I am an HP enthusiast from waaaaaaay back - from long long before they split. It takes a lot to turn an enthusiast away. They've managed. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist