> Each time (twice) I went to their store had > to bang my head on one of the store walls for an hour!! You're doing it wrong. If you want to get out quicker you need to bang *their* heads on the store wall. One way or the other you're unlikely to have the problem there ever again. :-) (Don't try this at home) or anywhere else)) RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist