I'm very happy with the HP G85 printer's quality of colour printing. The consumables cost is acceptable with bulk ink. The duplexing is indispensable. The scanner and copier work well. Fax is useful to have. But it's all ruined by the overriding philosophy. Time to die. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist