Yes the old HP lasers are good, I've got a HP 5M colorlaserjet Toners come in half litre bottles at Around $50 each For black/white I use a Kyocera 1700+ laser 20,000 copies per toner fill Got a couple of Oki lasers 400ex/600ex Forget the Okipage they always have paper feed problems PC > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of James Newton, Host > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:28 PM > To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.' > Subject: RE: [OT] HP Vendetta > > > > > > > Carlos A. Marcano V. > > > > So, Russell, what are the options? > > > > Canon. Or if you like, Canon. Lowest cost of operation, excellent > reliability, speed and quality. For an inkjet printer, they > are the only > choice. HP used to be it, but they are failing on almost every front. > Printers (laser and ink), PCs, servers, calculators etc... > They sold off > 'scopes and Aligent is still a great name, but I wouldn't > recommend anything > with HP's name on it at this point. > > I know more about laser printers. If you want a truly great > laser printer, > for basic, low cost use, and don't care so much about speed, > go find an old > LaserJet III computer places will literally give them away. > If you need > better resolution get an LJ 4. For more speed get a 4si or a > 5si. If you > need speed, resolution and all that, get a Brother HL-1440 > for home use or > an HL-5140 for the office. For multifunction go with a > Brother MFC-8440 or > CANON MF5750. For color laser, go with one of the Xerox > Phaser Solid-Ink > Color Printers like the 8400/B. Up to 24ppm in color (more > like 10ppm but > still great) and the lowest cost of operation of any color > printing system > by far. > > FedEx is out on all counts, UPS is winning but USPS is > actually the best. > (my opinion only) > > Ford for large trucks, Honda for cars. (my opinion only) > > SX for speed and lower product cost, PIC for ease of > programming and quick > prototypes. (my opinion only) > > Nextel for data services, Sprint for voice. (my opinion only) > > The Daily Show for news. CSI for entertainment > > Other product recommendations: > http://www.massmind.org/techref/ecommerce/beststuf.htm > - Best hair conditioner: Natures Gate Herbal Hair Conditioner > - Best pesticide: Wagners Bird Seed, no kidding. > - Best tool: Stanley Yankee Handyman and SHEFFIELD Crocodile multitool > > --- > James. > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist