Russell McMahon writes: >IBM model 30 PC only $US585!!! Unless I am totally confused, that's about $580 more than they usually go for at swap meets, etc here. That reminds me of the twelve spent 40-W fluorescent tubes I need to put out for the garbage collectors. Maybe I should advertise them on Ebay as having been preconditioned over the last ten years to operate on the 240-volt electrical network used in much of the world ('cause they quit working on our 120-volt electrical system). I can imagine someone using a IBM Model 30 exactly the same way I use our old 1987-vintage IBM PC/XT. I have DOS and Kermit on it and use it as a serial terminal. When its time comes one day, that will be that. It's probably worth maybe $10 or $15 for the power supply, but as long as the mother board still functions, it makes a pretty good driver for my X10 controller or other incidental small tasks that need a serial port and terminal software. The hard drive still works so one can even use it as a data logger if necessary, but something that old is not worth much to most people. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Information Technology Division Network Operations Group -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist