>I for one am considering posting satanic festival dates/links If such are especially meaningful above almost any other ceremonial event in your nations's year then that may be a good idea. Are you in Haiti? > So lets make a deal we should stick to the rules > NO RELIGION ON THE LIST The subset of the rules, as enumerated above, have been stuck to. The word "holy" has a wider meaning than that which you currently ascribe to it. AND It seems unlikely that you even skimmed past the first line or two. A shame, as you MAY have found it interesting. May I suggest that you google on "winston churchill" gallipoli as suggested for an interesting and, obviously in this instance, informative read. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist