Sorry Tony, the thread I was following was; [EE] Safe viewing of colours? Your reference to blue lighting in public toilets was relevant to the OPs question but the expansion into how intravenous drug users could get around the measure just made me cringe. IMHO it was unnecessary and the trigger for this debate. > Besides, you can find a vein by... Cringe again! I wasn't suggesting that information should be suppressed, I was questioning the reason for describing the technique in the first place? Nigel Duckworth -------Original Message------- From: Tony Smith Date: 04/24/05 10:34:00 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: RE:[OT] Banned info, was Safe viewing colors? > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu >mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu">piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf > > High tech solution, meet age-old cunning. > > TOO MUCH information! > > I'm sure most of the people you were describing > have worked out this dodge for themselves but > why risk enlightening the odd one that hasn't > by broadcasting it? > > Nigel Duckworth Which bit - the CD copy crack or the drug injection one? All CD pirates & drug users know this, since you didn't, you are therefore probably not a CD pirate or drug user. By telling you this, you now know that these systems contain flaws. The "suppress-information-to-protect-the-kiddies" line is always bound to trigger a debate. There are 2 problems. The 'bad guys' always get there first, and the knee-jerk solution is always broken. It's hard to explain that the solution usually leads to other hassles, such as some high end CD players won't play copy protected CDs. Blue lights at best merely shift, not stop the problem; a typical NIMBY attitude. Sure, they don't shoot up in YOUR toilets anymore. Besides, you can find a vein by touch, or once the needle is in, pull the plunger back to see if it fills with blood, meaning you haven't hit muscle. You can still inject into muscle, it just means the effect of the drug (any drug, btw) will be slower. And eventually, it ends up being a "what about bomb recipes on the internet then?" discussion. Google turns up interesting stuff, as usual. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist