Jim Have you challenged him about it? What was his response? How do you know for sure he's selling non-Newfound Warps? Has he, or could he have stock of genuine ones, either from you or from another reseller? I'm intrigued to know Les -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist