> Sorry if you don't think the PICLIST is the right place for this. I think > it is as it has a ripple effect right though the PIC world. Short of contacting ebay I'm not certain you can do anything. I kind of wondered if this might not become a problem after you stopped selling them- too good a product not to be widely available! I think the bottom line here, Jim, is that you really can't do much to stop this person. Even if you go so far as to obtain legal representation, sue, and get a cease and desist order, or whatever else, they can just close up shop, "move next door", and start up over again. IANAL, of course, but I think your best course of action is to do what you can to prevent future updates from being easily programmed, change things a bit, and return to selling them yourself. Have you considered changing away from the 18f252 to a PIC which WILL bootload? It'd be a PITA for a few minutes for some of us, but we can deal with it. Good luck, Jim, and thanks for all you've done for us. Your WARP-13a is the sole reason I use PICs today. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist