Russell,

I once did a lot of photography (as I know you do now) semi=20
professionally and I created documenting photographs (pass port  photo,=20
class reunion,  weddings, sports, monuments etc) and things that I  (I'm=20
sure I was the only one ;-) ) labeled as art. A lot of the art pictures=20
purpose was to make the viewer feel something.  A picture of an old=20
womans face, a nude woman (or man),  (and yes) a sunset  in the sea.=20
Often we get different feelings from "art-pictures". For me the site=20
named above appears to want to show the beauty of woman. And OK I feel=20
something from the pictures but definitely not the same as with some=20
hardcore photographs.  The later which is pornography for me.

If there was all men on the site would it be pornographic?

/Ake

ps I understand and appreciate that we can have different words for the=20
same thing. So this is probably not a big thing anyway. ds.

Russell McMahon wrote:

>>> Yep. That's porn. Mild by many standards.
>>
>
>> Not even close to porn
>
>
>> You must be kidding.. I can't see why this should be porno. Far from. =
At
>> least not more then a classical nude painting or is that porno to?
>
>
> See my recent lonnnng post.
> This site has the same core intention of the hardest core heterosexual=20
> porn sites.
>
> The difference is one of scale, not of intention.
>
> There are no doubt sites where the intention level is lower. This site=20
> definitely aims to sexually provoke and stimulate and generate male=20
> lust. Many classical nude paintings also had the same intent fwiw.=20
> Whether this is good, bad or interesting is orthogonal to this.
>
> The message from this site is far far more subtle than for many porn=20
> sites. But for people at the right place on the curve it will=20
> adequately satiate the pleasure centre for the moment. The time will=20
> come, *possibly* has come for those who respond as above, when what=20
> would at one stage have been either exciting or even repulsive,=20
> becomes inadequate to produce a requisite level of excitement.
>
> Note that I'm NOT making moral comment on the merits of running up or=20
> not running up this stimulus - response curve. Just noting that all=20
> forms of sexual stimulation, especially for men, is a classic pleasure=20
> centre activator and provision of regular stimulus always leads to=20
> desensitisation with the the desire to maintain pleasure levels and=20
> the attendant need for higher dose levels to achieve the same results.
>
> And you thought that it was just that you were getting old :-)
>
> Nobody has used the word "erotica". Erotica is pornography by another=20
> name. Ignoring, for a moment, any concept of whether pornography is=20
> good or bad or whatever makes it far easier to decide what constitutes=20
> pornography. Once decided you can turn back on the morality channel=20
> and hang on tight.
>
>
>
>            Russell McMahon
>
>


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